Hi friends! It’s Marathon Monday again already! The weeks are flying by!
So as you may recall my 14 mile run didn’t go too well. I was awake a lot the night after that run because of my knees aching and I had a lot of time to think. I really went back and forth a lot about whether I wanted to continue this journey. By the time Sunday evening rolled around, while I was pre-writing the next day’s Marathon Monday post, I knew that I would press on for the time being but that I would definitely have to make some adjustments.
Prior to this experience, when I would run what I consider “comfortable” distances (in the vicinity of 3 to 5 miles) I enjoy running a 10:00 minute mile average pace. It’s a pace at which I can carry on a conversation with running buddies yet still feel that I’m getting in a good workout. I can run faster at those distances if I really want to challenge myself, but usually not much faster than an 8:45 or 9:00 minute pace. The best half-marathon I completed was a time of 1:59 which is a few seconds over 9′s for the whole distance. I was ecstatic when I crossed that finish line.
But that was 2006.
It occurred to me when I signed on for this ‘challenge’ that I’d be upping my distances in a BIG hurry and was concerned that I’d be forcing the distance progression too quickly.
Mainly because leading up to the start of our training 7 weeks ago, the farthest I’d run in the months recent to that time was 4.25 miles. It’d also been 3 years since my last half-marathon.
And during those shorter runs, I’d run at a pace that had my heart rate pretty high (mid to high 170s), without concern because I wasn’t aiming to improve my body’s aerobic capacity, increase my oxygen consumption or improve my lactate threshold. I was just running for fun.
Now let’s talk a little about heart rate. There are a number of methods one can use to determine their estimated maximum heart rate and the levels of training intensities as a percentage of that estimated max. Short of doing a field test, the simplest method (but considered less accurate than other methods) is to subtract your age from 220. For me, at 37 years old, that places my max at 183 beats per minute (bpm). You can also use the newer equation of 205 – (.5 * age). That one puts me at about 186 bpm.
So using the 186 bpm as the starting point, here’s what my heart rate looks like at various intensity levels:
| Intensity | BPM |
| 100% | 186 |
| 95% | 177 |
| 90% | 167 |
| 85% | 158 |
| 80% | 149 |
| 75% | 140 |
| 70% | 130 |
| 65% | 121 |
Over the course of our recent runs, my heart rate has looked like this:
| Mileage | Avg HR | Max HR |
| 5.5 run | 164 | 192 |
| 7.6 run | 175 | 186 |
| 9.1 run | 173 | 186 |
| 10.1 run | 170 | 188 |
| 12.0 run | 166 | 181 |
| 14.0 run | 166 | 181 |
This means that I am generally working at intensity levels of 90-95% of my MHR. For well over two hours!
Wanna know where I should be for long runs while training for a marathon? 65% to 75% (121 to 140 bpm)
Now, I’ve known that I’ve been running at a rate that is too high. If I had a client tell me that this is what they’d been doing, I’d be sitting them down for a serious chat.
I have been letting pride and ego get in the way of proper endurance training. (Here’s what goes on in my head: I don’t WANT to run slower than I already am because I already FEEL slow. I really like having people to run with and if I go even slower I’ll lose my running buddies. I ran a half-marathon at a 9 min mile at 155 bpm, I just need to suck it up and push through.)
But I also know that I’ve been running at an anaerobic level which isn’t going to do much to improve my AEROBIC level if I don’t start training at it. (Aerobic basically means “with oxygen” and anaerobic means “without oxygen” – there’s a little more to it than that, but that’s a whole other discussion and this is already a lengthy post.)
The point here? I have to slow down to get faster.
Seems weird huh? Here’s why:
Once I take the time to start running in my aerobic zone I will train my body’s energy system to start burning fat as fuel (rather than carbohydrates [glycogen]). As that happens my pace will increase, but at the lower heart rate level. So I’ll slowly be getting faster, but without having to work at 95% intensity.
So this past weekend, while my running buddies were out of town, I decided to do a 10 mile training run where I focused all of my attention on my heart rate and none of my attention on pace.
My goal was to keep my heart rate under 143. During the first 5 miles that wasn’t too hard to accomplish because I was running downstream. Coming back from the turnaround point it did creep up a little as I had a gradual incline (if 1,150’ of ascent is considered ‘gradual’). Truly there is no place flat to run when you live near the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.
Even when it LOOKS and FEELS flat I get home and plug in my Garmin to find out it’s not even close to flat.

I finished the run with an average heart rate at 150 bpm, so I was around 81% intensity. I need to drop that down a bit further on the next one (16 miles) and really focus on staying at LEAST under 143. As much as I hate to see the snail’s pace I was running at this week get even SLOWER, I know it is what must be done.
The outcome:
- The run itself was VERY enjoyable. MSP was kind enough to rollerblade alongside me while I ran and it was so nice, pointing out scenery and having a few hours of quality time together. (Thank you MSP – I know it took a lot of time out of your day!)
- My knees still hurt this time (concrete bike paths be damned!!) but they recovered pretty well by the next morning. So well that we were able to take the dogs out Sunday morning for a hilly 5 miles, so that’s a great sign. And I didn’t even ice them Saturday (or take a torturous ice bath.)
- No issues sleeping the night before or the night after the run.
- No physical (or mental) fatigue afterward.
The trick will be finding out whether I have enough time to build up my speed within the aerobic zone before the marathon date of May 16. (Or maybe pick one in May that’s at sea level rather than a mile high – that would definitely improve the heart rate!)
Today’s discussion question: do you monitor your heart rate when you exercise? Or do you follow the RPE method? (Rate of Perceived Exertion) I have used a heart rate monitor for cardio since I became a personal trainer in 2001 and I have to admit, I love it. It helps me keep an eye on when things aren’t working as well.
Speaking of running, I want to give a big shout out to Beth who ran another half-marathon this past weekend at DisneyWorld. Nice job Beth!! If you are interested in helping Beth raise money on behalf of the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, please click on the Team In Training banner in the right side-bar to donate. She’ll be running her first marathon in June in support of this great cause.
Make it a GREAT week everyone!
– Shari B. =) (aka The Tortoise!)
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For further reading on the topic of heart rate training and aerobic endurance:
http://www.duathlon.com/articles/1460
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-267–1039-1-2X5-2,00.html





#1 by Amanda on March 8, 2010 - 6:25 pm
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Hmmmm, maybe I need to invest in a HR monitor. I guess I use the RPE method. I try to keep my pace at 11-12 min per mile pace knowing that if I go any faster I won’t be able to do the distance I want. Seems like no matter how slow I run I’m not conversational as it feels like I can barely breath at all
. It would be interesting to see what my HR actually is! Anyway, my training distances are shorter since I’m only doing the 1/2 but if you need to slow down and need a running buddy – let me know!!
~Amanda
#2 by Shari B. on March 8, 2010 - 7:17 pm
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Yay AMANDA! So glad to see you out here and read a comment from you! I’d LOVE to run with you sometime soon! Since I have a spare HR monitor that I keep for when I’m running on the treadmill, I’d be happy to let you try it out when we run so you can see if you like it or if you just wanted to get an idea of what your HR is at when you run. Let’s touch base and get something on the books!
#3 by Joan on March 8, 2010 - 4:50 pm
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Great post! What interesting stats, I never knew how complicated it could get.
I guess I’m an RPE person. I used to calculate h/r when I did aerobics, but now as just a walker I do hills to get in shape for hiking/snowshoeing. We just went snowshoeing as I was in good shape for the first trek of the year…no exhaustion or soreness the following day. I just remember instructors drum into our heads we should always be able to carry on a conversation while working out, otherwise you’re working too hard. Maybe that’s too elementary, but I still remember it and follow it.
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#4 by Christy on March 8, 2010 - 2:32 pm
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What type of HRM do you have?
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#5 by Shari B. on March 8, 2010 - 7:14 pm
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Christy, I have two HR monitors. One is solely HRM, a POLAR (the model number escapes me at the moment.) I use this one when I’m on the treadmill or when I don’t need my GPS. The other one is a Garmin – it’s part of my ForeRunner 305 GPS watch and has a chest strap just like the POLAR one does.
#6 by Cindy on March 8, 2010 - 2:11 pm
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OH MY GOD Shari..I had to pop on here and type a comment as opposed to Kindle it.
first off..THANK YOU SISTER! I so needed this. I have been penciling all my heart rates and I am WAY over doing it. I am typically in the 170′s for most of my run (minus the walk breaks)
yes, I love my HR moniter…it’s plugged right into my TM. I actually really want a garmin of some sort but haven’t figured that all out yet.
please please answer berni’s questions because the same exact senario came to my mind too. I try try try to not run faster but it is killing me. but after seeing this I know I need to.
This week my running mileage ups a bit (from 2 miles to 4) yeah yeah, I know, lame but it’s where I am at.
I want to be able to not wear myself out by doing this..I really want to do it right and not cause harm to my body and I want to be smart about it all.
My toddler wears me out enough. My running should be a help!
haha
THANK YOU SHARI.,…Today’s post ROCKED
xoxox
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#7 by Fallon on March 8, 2010 - 9:56 am
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Very interesting post. I’ll monitor my heart rate when I feel I haven’t been working hard enough. My heart rate is between 137-160 on indoor cardio. When I’m outdoors it can go all the way to 190! As long as I’m sweating like no tomorrow I know I had a good workout!
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#8 by Bernadette on March 8, 2010 - 8:58 am
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Oh I love this post for soooo many reasons!! I’ll try not to ramble….
Ok, I do have the heartrate monitor (Garmin) and just recently stopped wearing it. Before I got the Garmin I used to think that my heart rate was getting too high and would use that as an excuse to take walk breaks during my runs. Once I got the Garmin I realized that my heart rate was not as high as I thought it was. My last 7.5 mile run (wearing my HR monitor) my HR averaged at 119 with a max of 150 (183 is my Max) so I guess as far as heart rate goes I’m not too far off… now I’m really confused because IF I’m already slow and am already training pretty close to 65-75% of my max…. when does the speed come into play, when do I get faster???
Do I use this for my long runs only and use my shorter runs for speed training, at which time I could push my heart rate higher?? If so how high would be ideal for a speed session???
Looks like I better dust off the HR monitor and start wearing it again…
Thanks for all the great info Shari!!! I love it!!!
xoxo
#9 by Shari B. on March 8, 2010 - 7:12 pm
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Hi Berni,
This is why when you saw that your Runner’s World training calculator said that you should drop your pace to the 13:00 mile, I’d commented that there was a reason for it. Taking walk breaks during your runs is NOT a bad thing either! We all get caught up in feeling like we have to be so tough (I do it too!) but listening to your body counts for a LOT. Averaging 119 bpm puts you just under 65% for your long runs.
To answer your question, you would use this lower intensity training for your long runs primarily. Use your shorter runs to add intervals where you are pushing to the high end in spurts. That high end can be 90% to 100% in intensity for speed. My favorite intervals to increase speed AND strength are actually hill repeats. (Set a timer for 15-20 seconds, run “all out” up the hill till the timer goes off, recover for twice that time, then repeat a few times, adding additional sets as you get stronger.)
Are you tracking all of your runs somewhere that you can see what your pace is, what the conditions are (elevation, etc) and tracking your HR across time to see if you are improving your pace while still in the lower intensity range? I’d recommend starting that as you train for your next half.
My trainer ‘head’ still believes in training for ‘specificity’ which means you get better at what you work at, so I still believe that some of your long runs need to be a little faster toward your desired race pace, not only as a way to switch things up but to get you used to the feel. I’ll be doing most of my upcoming long runs slowly, but feel that before race day, I’ll still throw one in where I’m running at (or close to) my desired pace. At the very least, I’ll alternate some of my miles that way. Maybe one or two at the slower pace, then speed up for one, then back down again.
Hope that answers your questions Berni!
PS – still do the speed of running that you ENJOY though, and don’t get TOO caught up in the details.
#10 by Beth on March 8, 2010 - 8:23 am
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Hello Shari, glad your run went well this weekend. Thanks for the little bit about my half this weekend. The Disney World half marathon went well and I have a new PR which I was very excited to see as I crossed the finish line! I have greatly improved my time since my first half with you 3 years ago
Thanks for getting me into running halves!!
Hope all is well and have a great day!
Beth
#11 by Shari B. on March 8, 2010 - 6:57 pm
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Hi Beth! So glad that you’ve enjoyed running the halves. I think its a great distance – challenging but you don’t feel like your body’s gonna fall apart. I’m starting to think 26.2 is CUCKOO!! It’s really making me appreciate the 13.1 distance!
#12 by Christy on March 8, 2010 - 6:27 am
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I’ve really only use RPE. But I’ve been thinking about using a heart rate monitor……